[goosedragons]

Right but you can get a faster full fat desktop for the same price that'll let you shove in 3.5" and 2.5" drives if you want, typically have higher RAM ceilings too, etc. Even in my tiny apartment the volume taken up by an ATX case isn't too much.

[Beltalowda]

I don't need more RAM or drives though (these things support 64G RAM), and mini-PCs are just a lot smaller than a full desktop.