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by mlindner 1521 days ago
I'll also add for one more piece of irony that the "Moskva" used to be called the "Slava", and was built in Mykolaiv in Ukraine (when it was part of the Soviet Union).

In fact Russia as a country now has no shipyards capable of building anything larger than frigates, so this missile cruiser is actually something beyond the technology of Russia to produce right now. All of the Soviet Union's (and Russia's) aircraft carriers were in fact built in Mykolaiv as well for example. Their main class of Aircraft Carrier in the cold war was the "Kiev" (Kyiv) class.

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Well, a lot of Soviet military, naval and aerospace tech that's now used by Russia was developed and built in what is now Ukraine. They had many top design bureaus there.

Which is why Russia felt cheated for having an independent Ukraine that's not a Russian puppet state as it meant the loss of highly important defense supply chains.

> Which is why Russia felt cheated for having an independent Ukraine that's not a Russian puppet state as it meant the loss of highly important defense supply chains.

It wasn't a loss until Russia occupied Crimea and the Donbas, before that there was extensive collaboration, even after the fall of Yanukovich. Instead of having the vital supply chains in a non-puppet but relatively friendly neighbor, they cut their own noses off to spite Ukraine and lost access to stuff like marine engines they simply can't replace.

And the engines were built in Zaporozhie also in Ukraine. Just like smoking Kuznetsov's engines.