[pwr-electronics]

> With a generous interpretation, they can be said to break classical thermodynamics

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31008263

[marginalia_nu]

Operative word being classical. Quantum physics breaks classical physics. Stopped being controversial about a hundred years ago.

Thw very same comment specifically states that physics itself is not broken.

[pwr-electronics]

Ok, so you're confirming that you're doing exactly what I said popular science articles often do.

[marginalia_nu]

No I am not. Breaking classical physics is not breaking physics.

[pwr-electronics]

I'm running out of ways to explain myself, so I'll just reword and summarize this thread from my perspective:

OC: Is it broken?

Me: No, they make generous interpretations to claim that it's broken.

You: With a generous interpretation, they can be said to break ...

Like I said, we're not having the same conversation.

[marginalia_nu]

This is just sophistry. You're omitting the crucial context of what it is in these sentences, and it is only when this is done they appear contradictory.

[pwr-electronics]

Of course there are contradictions. I'm talking about journalistic style in magazines. You're talking about something else.