[chomp]

I graphed the difference in years amongst men and women using good ol' fashioned awk and free graphing software:

https://imgur.com/a/3b1KrD7

It looks like at around age 18 - 30ish, the numbers start catching up, with a sharper reduction in expectancy differences happening around age 35.

From the PRB:

"Men are three times as likely as women to die from injuries (unintentional injuries, suicide, or homicide), and progress against those causes of death has been much slower than against other causes in the last 50 years. There is also evidence that men at all ages are less likely to seek medical care and less likely to comply with medical instructions than are women."

[spookylettuce]

I'm very interested in this workflow of data -> awk -> graph. What graphing software did you use?

[chomp]

Well, I spat out the list of numbers and just googled "graph values" and took the first result, but if you love to stay in command line, you can do something like so...

# awk '{print $7-$4}' chart | gnuplot -p -e 'plot "/dev/stdin"'

Where `chart` is just what I copy and pasted from the site :)

[aidenn0]

I used a data -> awk -> graph with the NYT covid numbers, which had both state and county granularity. I used gnuplot to graph.

[readthenotes1]

"There is also evidence that men at all ages are less likely to seek medical care and less likely to comply with medical instructions than are women."

Especially on the 0-1 year old group. Toxic masculinity starts in utero.

[chomp]

Men's health is complicated. Yes, there's some "strength in silence" confounding issues in doctor training and patients, but if you pry back the social media buzzwords, you'll see that there's complex economic and societal forces that push men's health downward.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1121551/

Also, I think you are trolling, but I'll bite. The expectancy in the 0-1 age group takes into account all life events that will affect the child over time, including what I had quoted. If you look at the probabilities in early life for both sexes, they have similar death probabilities.

[TheSoftwareGuy]

> The expectancy in the 0-1 age group takes into account all life events that will affect the child over time

But this is not taken into account in the Death Probability column, is it? Because we also see in that column, consistently better outcomes for women, even for the very youngest age groups

[Retric]

10 and 11 year old boys have very similar rates of death as 10 and 11 year old girls, and it swaps some years ex: 2013.

Click on 2006 for example and men have noticeably lower rates of death in that age range, but 14 year old boys where still twice as likely to die.

[21723]

Toxic masculinity starts in utero.

I was going to reply but then decided, no, nevermind.

[yellowstuff]

Most people will miss this reference and the rest will feel old. You owe us all apologies.

[kristopolous]

The internet can be extremely hostile to empirical evidence. I actually just expect to be brigaded whenever I reference things like The Lancet. People are aggressively anti-intellectual.

People don't logon to learn, they're here to be tribal and do social cues

[ikr678]

Hoping for a truly open minded forum, like some kind of nirvana

[pards]

Nevermind was the better album, for sure.