| > Still, so far the Buk that fools used to down the Malaysia MH17 is the only actual case we're talking about: misguided killings inside the aforementioned "sphere of control", more like sphere of complete corrupt incompetence if you ask me. This is what western media would have you believe. However, the Western Ukrainians have been attacking the Eastern Ukrainians for half a decade now, bombing civilians much of the time. Similar to what happened with the Buk, is the new Kramatorsk situation. Western Media reports it as Russians killing Ukrainians
https://nypost.com/2022/04/10/liz-cheney-says-ukraine-train-... Russian Media reports it as Western Ukrainians killing Eastern Ukrainians
https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/151053-kramatorsk_ra... However, we know that Russians claim to be only using Iskandar missiles these days. Iskandars are more powerful, more accurate, and significantly longer range. An Iskandar is distinguishable via the tail fins
https://www.defencetalk.com/military/photos/iskander.46333/f... Tochka-U missiles don't have tail fins in the same position, as they are more centrally located
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPz-Oy6WYAQ07Ko?format=jpg&name=... Russians fired a Tochka-U at an exercise in '22, and there is alleged film of a Russian unit having a Tochka-U. Whereas, the Tochka-U is the only Ukrainian missile of the type, as they do not have access to Iskandars What landed at the Kramatorsk train station was clearly a Tochka-U. So, I guess it is in the realm of possibility that it was either side. |