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by fsloth 1529 days ago
"Can we accept US as a enemy of europe?"

This is absurd. US has been the guarantor of European peace and indenpendence after the second world war.

European union basically started as a Washington think tank project.

Yes, US wants to advance it's own interests. No, it does not make US enemy of "Europe". Which is a silly way to put it. "Europe" is not a single polity or a state (not yet at least). It is still a collection of independent nation states. Most of which want to be aligned with US.

Nobody is forcing them to be aligned with US.

China or Russia would be happy to welcome them into their fold of corrupt autocracy.

Europe and US are strongly aligned economically, culturally and politically, while the world around them turns authoritarian.

Sure, they sometimes play against each other.

But, US and the nations of Europe are first and foremost allies.

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The fact that you think that a union of european states is a product of US think thank is straight bullshit, like that even if you don't know that there were italian politicians saying that union of european states would be the best way to have stability in europe in 1800s (Like Giacomo Matteotti in Italy, but I'm sure others in other nations had the same idea), you would still have to ignore the fact that in 1920 we had already a league of nations
Of course EU needs to have the actual countries it is constituted of engaged in it.Ideologically the projecthas many predecessors.

But the current EU started after the second world war.

The entity considered the progenitor of EU is the European Coal and Steel community

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Commun...

This was peak cold war and US influence in Europe was non-neglible to say the least.

While the reporting around the subject is a bit hyperbolical, strong Washington backing was always a cornerstone of the project

https://web.archive.org/web/20220130132451/https://www.teleg...

>Nobody is forcing them to be aligned with US.

Nor would they get denazified™ if they decide to align closer to another power.