[captainmuon]

When React first came out, it was a breath of fresh air. There were some weird kinks, but instead of getting better they doubled down on the magic, and it got worse over time.

I would really like something like React, but completely explicit - no hidden state, no hooks, no monkey patching. Everything class based, you have one render method, one method where you can launch your ajax, and you give your data dependencies explicitly instead of React trying to infer something and calling your functions at random.

[KronisLV]

> Everything class based, you have one render method, one method where you can launch your ajax, and you give your data dependencies explicitly instead of React trying to infer something and calling your functions at random.

Class based components in React got pretty close. But for whatever reason, everyone jumped on the hooks bandwagon, against which i have some personal objections: https://blog.kronis.dev/everything%20is%20broken/modern-reac... (harder to debug, weird render loop issues, the dev tools are not quite there yet)

That said, using the Composition API in Vue feels easier and somehow more stable, especially with the simple Pinia stores for data vs something like Vuex or Redux.

[imbnwa]

Reginald Braithwaite had some really great responses to the move away from OOP as well: [0]http://raganwald.com/2016/07/16/why-are-mixins-considered-ha... [1]http://raganwald.com/2016/07/20/prefer-composition-to-inheri...

[afiori]

It would be enough for functional components to have extensible input and outputs

    function Button({props,ref,key,hooks}){
      useEffect(hooks,()=>{...})
      return {render: "text", ...stuff}
    }

[imtringued]

Yeah come on, the global hidden variables are completely unnecessary.

[aaaaaaaaata]

You may just want HTMX, right?