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by odonnellryan 1527 days ago
I know this is going to sound insane, but what is the obsession with truth? Things can be true and harmful.

People should be judged for saying harmful things.

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I don’t know about obsession with truth, but I think having a shared reality is the basis for relationships, trust, and many accomplishments.

I don’t think truth is something that people should obsess over, but it is very important to seek and hopefully gain understanding.

I remember reading 1984 and the breaking of people to admit that “2+2=5” was an interesting way that people accepting false things as true is very bad.

I think intent matters a lot as judging people for being mean is different from someone saying “the sky is blue today” and the listener is harmed because they hate blue or whatever.

That’s a completely made up example, but I think real, although dangerous, example is trans issues. There are bigots who say things like “women aren’t men” or whatever to hurt people and I don’t think that’s right. But then someone will say “men are generally stronger than women” to discuss some scientific principle and people feel harmed there because they don’t want any differences to exist.

Once you start deviating from truth, you enable a wide range of extremely horrifically bad things. Things you have not witnessed, but humanity has. Do not do this. "Here be dragons," for the true idiots who don't bother understanding this.
Yeah but how do you get people to form a consensus on what's harmful?
You don't need to. Society will always define this for you.
But doesn't society defining this consist people deciding what's harmful?
Yes absolutely. My point is it doesn't matter if we create a system unless we really think society is going to use it.