[ZeroGravitas]

Sometimes people's positions are so absurd that you feel there's no other way to break through.

"I want people to be allowed to freely contract with each other without government intervention except when I don't" is a fundamentally ridiculous position for someone to take and pretend they're just following some noble universal law.

If I've not conveyed that message with my replies, then I've failed in my attempt to communicate. But that's the fundamental problem with their stance, quibbling within their bizarre framing is pointless if they still believe they're arguing consistently.

[josephcsible]

That's a misrepresentation of my position. I do want everyone to be able to freely contact with each other without government intervention, all the time. My complaint is that right now, companies can't freely contract with unions, because the government gave unions special powers like not letting companies walk away from the negotiating table.