[dudeman13]

It's not a game if you can't choose to stop playing it.

People just don't respect kids. Would you enjoy that game with other adults? Even if no matter the situation they wouldn't give a shit if you wanted to stop playing it or not?

Not being able to trust anyone ever to be acting in good faith and be honest is one of the reasons why we can't have nice things.

[progre]

I don't respect my kids? You don't know shit.

Anyway, "other adults" lie all the time. Every employer I ever had has lied one time or another. This is important information. Bringing kids up into some fairies and unicorn fantasy where everything is unthinkingly accepted, thats disrespecting children

[dudeman13]

>Anyway, "other adults" lie all the time

Yes, and if this is their standard modus operandi the healthy thing to do, if possible, is getting rid of them from your life.

Are you gonna be happy when your kids start playing the game with you? When they are the ones unilaterally deciding what matters and what doesn't?

If the answer is "no" then you aren't respecting them as individuals capable of learning, thought and action. And I got the feeling you won't be happy when they do it with you.

When you constantly play games like that you are also establishing that you can never be trusted, even if they think it matters.

[drooby]

You don’t have to lie to your children to teach them how to think critically about the world. Nor do the actions of other adults necessarily make lying okay. You may even be doing your children a disservice by teaching them that lying is okay or humorous. I know, I know. I don’t know you at all.. but yes, what your saying does sound like it may be disrespectful to be honest.