[raydev]

The Apple Music app was effectively an Electron app for a few years before the Catalyst version arrived, just a shell around webviews. And even now, there's still a bunch of webviews in the app today.

Mac Messages was comically just a plain webview for years. Again, that changed with Catalyst.

[oscarmv]

Uh no. The old client's chat transcript was using WebView for display with a bunch of custom-fed CSS/HTML/DOM that was built in code. The rest of the app was good ol' AppKit.

The whole chat transcript being a web view thing was one of the main reasons the app eventually got killed in favor of a Catalyst version. There was zero expertise in the team to make all the random new transcript features that the designers kept throwing on the iOS client and there was also no way to reuse the knowledge and code of the iOS team either. Various attempts to rewrite the mac client's chat transcript to native throughout the years failed due to lack of resources and/or corporate bullshit.

[raydev]

> Uh no. The old client's chat transcript was using WebView for display with a bunch of custom-fed CSS/HTML/DOM that was built in code. The rest of the app was good ol' AppKit.

Yes, I overstepped, the sidebar was probably an NSTableView and the text input looked native enough. I still find it comical that the star of the show, the transcript, was a webview.

> due to lack of resources and/or corporate bullshit

I suspected as much, and again, it's comical. Trillion dollar company. Apple, of all companies, can afford to pay Meta-level comp or higher, roll out big recruiting efforts across the US and Canada and let engineers work in more cities, and yet they've only barely started in the last couple years.

[heresaPizza]

MacOS 12.3 just changed that and the difference is incredible. All the Apple music screens load much faster, especially the search one that previously was not just slow but also broken