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by throwaway82652 1540 days ago
>GTK and Qt are not built on top of the X toolkit intrinsics

That changes nothing, they have no reason to base themselves on Xt if that doesn't work well for them, which it doesn't for a number of other reasons. Also X was intentionally designed to support multiple toolkits using any underlying library they want, so the designers definitely didn't intend for everyone to use Xt.

>X11/Xorg bashing is in vouge, for some odd reason, despite it working pretty well for most *nix users.

There's no bashing here. These are just the facts. It was a fine thing for the time it was created, it's now obsolete and doesn't work that well anymore. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. That's the way it goes with things.

>If you want alternatives like Wayland and GTK to succeed

This is a bad way to take the conversation. I don't really care what succeeds. There's no reason to get that invested in any particular solution aimed towards something so fleeting (and lacking in rewards) as the attention of a bunch of random Linux distributions.

But I would say those things have already been largely successful at what they set out to do.

>you have not presented any good arguments that would change my mind on any issue so far.

I don't really care about changing your mind either. If you want to change your mind, that's completely your decision to make. I can only point you towards facts that may illustrate other perspectives.

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The above article made false claims. I have refuted them. End of conversation.
I have refuted them. Incorrectly though, the article was not wrong, your interpretation is.
If you say so, but I've no idea which article or which claims you're talking about.