[cutler]

Have you actually had a look at Rails 7 with Turbo? It's nothing like what you're describing with NextJS etc. in that it aims to keep Javascript to an absolute minimum.

[evilduck]

Yes, they’re sending HTML chunks over the wire. It’s the same end result though, except you’re still not exempted from learning JS.

[cutler]

It puts rendering back on the server where it belongs. The JS is minimal.

[evilduck]

I’ve seen garbage and exemplary sites produced with both methods. Rendering HTML with data hydrated server side and assembling it with a library client side vs rendering JSON and generating the HTML client side is a weird religious stance to take.