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by folkrav 1536 days ago
I know what CircleCI is. Just wanted to understand what part of it you were referring to, which seems to be SaaS in general. I'm honestly not really convinced about self-hosting really avoiding untimely downtime, but whatever works for you and your team.

E.g. I've worked in a business who self-host their Gitlab instance, there was a non-negligible amount of work for backups/upgrades on top of troubleshooting performance issues once in a while, amongst other things in the same vein.
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capableweb 1536 days ago
The part about "untimely downtime" is about that CircleCI decides themselves when to push updates (which is the most common reason services has downtime), instead of you deciding when to upgrade/push updates. If you have a big migration/change coming up, you'd put pause on upgrading the CI/CD service as you don't want to muck with it while pushing out other organization-wide changes.

Granted, self-hosting comes with it's own share of problems too, no solution is a silver-bullet without any issues, but being able to "freeze" things to a stable mode helps to stabilize other processes.

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macinjosh 1536 days ago
Every service will have down time. It is about the locus of control and agency. When I self host I can decide when to apply updates and do maintenance. When something does go wrong I can dive in, fix the problem, and move on with my day.

Most people don't want any responsibility though so they do everything they can to push work off to a SaaS or cloud provider. That way when the SHTF they can browse reddit and point their boss to the status page.

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folkrav 1536 days ago
> Most people don't want any responsibility though so they do everything they can to push work off to a SaaS or cloud provider. That way when the SHTF they can browse reddit and point their boss to the status page.

Phew, those are a lot of assumptions. Many businesses choose cloud services cause they take the tradeoff between that cost or having someone at hand to maintain the infrastructure, depending on its complexity. I've worked with employers using many cloud providers for years now, the amount of times I would _legitimately_ be prevented from working at all by outages is extremely low.

The agency part, I do get. But come on.

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