[thirdwhrldPzz]

All of it is taken from him not releasing source code.

From him not unionizing his companies.

From the officially documented history of his business acquisitions where he bought up business that already existed.

This approaching 1984 level double speak. It’s the lack of effort that speaks to his motives. Where is the code for his machines that can choose to plow into us? But somehow Twitters algorithm is super important.

Edit: tacking on his desire to burn up fossil fuels on rockets while the UN is announcing we’re firmly on track to an unlivable ecosystem. We are not optimizing human economics but Elon’s.

[jfjfkfmfjr]

There is a clear difference between open sourcing Twitter's algorithm that promotes certain tweets over others and Tesla's IP.

Musk has a very high IQ. Unionizing his company would be a very dumb decision.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

> There is a clear difference between open sourcing Twitter's algorithm that promotes certain tweets over others and Tesla's IP.

Given that the IP in question includes whatever solution Tesla adopts for the trolley problem, there certainly is a clear difference. Twitter's algorithm is for arguing about, Tesla's algorithm is going to be directly the cause of death for someone (arguably, it already has).

[astrange]

The "trolley problem" isn't real, cars have brakes.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

You cannot be serious.

[astrange]

I am serious and any self-driving car engineer would agree with me. (I got this opinion from an AI lawyer at such a company.)

The truth is the opposite - not only will cars never make a "trolley problem" decision (because the only thing they should be doing is braking), it would be immoral to give them the capability, because it might decide it's in a trolley-problem scenario at the wrong time and randomly decide to sacrifice you.

[JoeAltmaier]

I agree braking should be the default. But if any self-driving car out there steers to avoid collision, then it is already facing the 'trolley problem'.

In fact self-driving cars normally change lanes as part of their path finding. So a failure to change lanes in an emergency would be unusual.

Disagreement over the correct behavior will result in lawsuits of course. "It should have attempted to miss me!" vs "It should have stayed in it's lane!"

We'll need legislation to settle this, for insurance purposes at the very least.

[thirdwhrldPzz]

Yeah there is a clear difference. I never said there was not.

Strawman.

I have a very high iq; in a past life I designed power switching machines and high performance boards for Nortel. Also that’s an appeal to higher authority.

Also these companies are pretty data driven through automation; big banks are run from 2GB excel sheets. It’s just people doing math and the ones doing best also happen to have political tradition on their side.

Musk is still just one man.

[postmeta]

UAW is corrupt, encouraging them is a bad idea. Unions are symptom of corporations where employees don't have enough equity. Also a symptom of incompetent governments. If you fix the government or give employees equity you don't need unions. Tesla aspires to give employees equity. There are many who became millionaires after joining tesla early and working the line.

[thirdwhrldPzz]

There are many who became millionaires through unions.

It’s almost as if humans will work to enrich each other and the numbers game is artificial political semantics; millionaires appear in both constructs!

At least I can vote and discuss openly union operations.

Not so with Papa Elon. The outputs of labor are his preferred targets.

Why does humanity keep doing this?

Oh and governments serve at the will of the people which seems fine with the status quo. I’m not expecting much movement there. Any improvement on Main Street has to occur within politics as usual which means deflating Elon for change.

It’s really sus to suggest his vision for the far future is possible given he sits right at the same edge of discovery we do. “Outlook uncertain” for that far down the road is the only honest answer. Especially when “build rockets to nowhere” and even EV production are exacerbating industrial feedback loops threatening the species.

Diversity in thought leadership is good, imo.

[misiti3780]

prove it.