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by caffeine 1536 days ago
> it's hateful and has no place on the Internet.

Well that’s where we (you and I, but also us collectively as a country, it seems) disagree.

I don’t care that it’s hateful, and I think it should have a place on the internet, and so long as we allow monopolies on the internet, then it needs to have a place on whatever monopoly platform there is.

Anyone who thinks they should be deciding what is “hateful and has no place on the internet” is EXACTLY who should NOT be deciding such things.

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You're totally right, I was trying to do a two part thing and I ruined it by saying, "no place on the Internet".

I should have said, "No place on Twitter." On the Internet? Yeah, totally in agreement.

On Twitter? Couldn't disagree more, and my one-two punch of a point was going to be that 1) it's up to Twitter to decide that, and 2) they've landed at about as free as American society will tolerate.

1) because Twitter has rights too. If we actually respect freedom of speech, we also have to respect Twitter's right to decide who to associate with and,

2) Twitter is completely tolerant to many things we'd probably consider offensive. My example probably isn't even enough to get banned on Twitter for, even though I think Twitter would be wise to avoid associating with people who get that mean in their trolling.

I think the only way to support free speech is to support Twitter's right to decide who it allows on its platform. I don't think they should let Trump on their platform, for example, but that's up to them, and they can change their minds. And now, apparently, (at least partially) up to Elon!

And yet, you're a long time, heavy-ish poster on the more heavily moderated Hacker News.