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by dimitrios1
1533 days ago
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I am going to butcher this, but my sense is this counter culture against the big heavy opinionated frameworks arose from that generation of programmers who in a sense "grew up" (career wise) on things like Rails. Like others have said, there eventually comes a time where you are fighting the framework more than the framework is providing value, and having learned the value of the abstractions and functionality through multiple applications, they then became able to pick and choose a finer subset for a particular problem or domain. The best of both worlds, in my opinion, is a loosely coupled set of opinionated tools and libraries, but that also has a tool that provides a unifying interface into the "golden path" for using those together to provide some functionality. |
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This is almost it. A few more things I think one wants:
- Do most of the coupling and plumbing yourself, IoC is evil when applied to things that do too much.
- Control the application state - see above.
- Be free to substitute any major part, be able to compose them freely.
- Re-use and extracting libraries from past work to be convenient, robust and affect past / maintenance-mode projects positively too.
- Be able to defer extracting libraries and generalizing up to the time you actually need to.
- Decouple code organization from artifact deployment.
- Be absolutely free in how you design and write domain logic and information processing - this is the brain of an application.
- Be absolutely free in how you design and write the UI - this is the body of an application.
- Have the tooling/utilities around code that fit your workflows and business needs.
I've come to the conclusion that full-stack frameworks in the style of Rails/Laravel/Django get in the way of some of the above and don't provide enough to make the above possible by themselves. I think the answer is not "use this framework" or even "build this framework".
It starts with your business/domain needs and builds from there - custom and simple. It builds up slowly and steadily like a garden that reflects your team's personality. It takes a careful, comprehensive, holistic approach. There are angles from version control, to project management to deployment that are all incorporated.