[faeriechangling]

I have been hearing the exact same complaints about Samsung literally since it entered the smartphone market.

- Bloat? Yup, touchwiz.

- Ads? They had an unremovable galaxy store app early on.

- Bad performance? Definitely compared to the iPhones they got compared to.

At this point I see the main pulls of Samsung being the fact they offer better software support than Chinese brands with up to 5 years security updates / 4 years OS updates, and they have an entire ecosystem of tablets and keyfinders and audio products and so on. The problem I have with Samsung nowadays is that Apple offers all of those things but better so if you can do without the Google/Microsoft integration you should just go Apple. They have also lost several of their historical advantages:

- SD card? Gone.

- Headphone jack? Gone.

- Best screens in the business? Everybody is using their panels now.

[llampx]

Maybe I'm cynical but I think most of their success can be attributed to advertising/marketing. They've done a good job of that. In quality though, I don't consider them better than Huawei or Xiaomi.