[MaxGabriel]

I don't think any of your arguments are very responsive to Ferris's reasoning. For example, that it's "ludicrous" for him to gain muscle with so little gym time is not responsive to the argument that not allowing muscles time to recover retards growth.

Moreover, I think it's a misinterpretation to say that Tim is promising people, say, 2 hours of sleep per day by reading his book. His book is a documentation of experimentation by himself and others, and especially for sleep is partly theoretical. But his analysis on how to cut sleep time is still helpful, especially given the scheduling constraints Ferris recognizes for a 2 hour sleep schedule.

[lsc]

Ferris sounds like someone claiming they can sell you a part you can bolt-on to your engine to double your gas mileage. I mean, I don't think anything he said violates the laws of physics; It's possible, but it's so unlikely that without extraordinarily good evidence, I'm simply going to ignore the claim.

[seven_stones]

> is not responsive to the argument that not allowing muscles time to recover retards growth.

That point isn't in dispute. What is in dispute is the degree of alleged growth.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

> and especially for sleep is partly theoretical

Especially since he himself is nowhere close to the 2 hours claim. I heard someone else did this...

> Moreover, I think it's a misinterpretation to say that Tim is promising people, say, 2 hours of sleep per day by reading his book.

"YOU WILL LEARN (in less than 30 minutes each)

# How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested"

"From the gym to the bedroom, it's all here, and it all works."

"You don't need better genetics or more discipline. You need immediate results that compel you to continue.

That's exactly what The 4-Hour Body delivers."

http://www.fourhourbody.com/

Praise quotes for the book, FROM the book:

“Timothy has packed more lives into his 29 years than Steve Jobs has in his 51.” —Tom Foremski, journalist and publisher of SiliconValleyWatcher.com ...More lives? Remove the "v" and I'd agree.

“Reading this book is like putting a few zeros on your income. Tim brings lifestyle to a new level—listen to him!” —Michael D. Kerlin, McKinsey & Company consultant to Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund and a J. William Fulbright Scholar

“Tim has done what most people only dream of doing. I can’t believe he is going to let his secrets out of the bag. This book is a must read!” —Stephen Key, top inventor and team designer of Teddy Ruxpin and Lazer Tag and a consultant to the television show American Inventor

And the subtitle:

"AN UNCOMMON GUIDE TO RAPID FAT-LOSS, INCREDIBLE SEX, AND BECOMING SUPERHUMAN"

How much Kool-Aid does someone have to drink before they aren't embarrassed to buy into these breathless sensationalist claims?