[throwanem]

When you need to define the concept of artifice out of existence, and hope your audience fails to notice, in order to sustain your argument, what does that say about the argument?

[pembrook]

And thus, we have reached the logical endpoint of semantic debate, ie. no longer confronting the underlying ideas in GP's comment.

If you replace the word "natural" with "artificial" in GP's comment, it doesn't change anything about what he/she was saying.