[bko]

I mean, he's obviously not a normal guy. I don't know what you expect. From a recent profile:

> Apart from a criminal streak, Hotz shares with Raskolnikov, Dostoyevsky’s antihero, a predilection for instrumental reason and an urge to test his own mettle, to know himself by knowing his limits. As a young adult Hotz allowed himself to become addicted to prescription opiates almost as an experience in self-mastery. “I did it, I was addicted, and I quit,” he told me. “I think I had to have that experience. I don’t think I ever could have been the type who never tried it. Because in some ways I feel that if I’m not strong enough to defeat that and overcome it…” He paused for several beats before assuring me he’d never want anyone to follow his example. “In order to quit,” he continued, “it required me to rethink what I wanted out of life. After that, one of the biggest things that changed is I stopped caring about money.”

https://return.life/2022/03/07/george-hotz-comma-ride-or-die...

[mdp2021]

> not a normal guy

I assure you some people try themselves - and I do not see what is not "normal" about it. To experience, voluntary, then grow, is the norm.

[bko]

I don't know. I ran the idea of purposely getting addicted to opioids to see if i can quit by my wife and she assured me i was crazy.

[mdp2021]

This direction goes off-topic, but: look, if you married her,

-- either you go along well, hence that she agrees with your opinion is a weak test;

-- or you married her to test yourself, which would prove my point.

TND; QED. /J

[webnrrd2k]

Maybe she married him to test herself?

[Zacharias030]

What does TND mean?

[mdp2021]

("Tertium Non Datur" - that analyzed options are exhaustive)

[paisawalla]

Meaning this only neutrally, and completely respectfully: have you considered that you're a bit abnormal as well?

[girvo]

As someone who somewhat went down that path, the answer for me was "no, I can't quit on my own and man this 'experiment' has done some serious damage to my life"

I'm doing better now! The buprenorphine injection has made my life so much better.

Of course my trauma was one of the real driving forces behind that "experiment" and thought process. Really, my "lets find out what its like" was a rationalisation it seems.

[mcv]

I've heard that real serious addictions are never just about the drugs, but also about underlying issues. It makes sense that someone without those issues would have an easier time quitting.

[biscoitinho]

I'm in a similar situation, but not with opioids. I don't think that this is a crazy idea at all. We're just testing our limits and seeing if we as smart as we say.

[paisawalla]

Agreed. To test my belief in probabilities, I occasionally challenge myself to a few rounds of Russian Roulette.

[azinman2]

And what if you aren’t?

[germinalphrase]

The hubris of framing it that way is kind of wild.