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by replygirl 1542 days ago
webpack was older when rollup came out than gulp was when webpack came out. if not for create-react-app's impact, we'd probably all have moved on 2-3 years ago
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Wow. Weird reasoning. Never thought someone could be so openly ageist about… a module bundler.

Could you maybe provide a better argument for why you think we’d all have moved on by now? Aside from ‘wow its not as new as the new thing’?

I don’t know much about rollup, it doesn’t seem to be that different, but some of the newer tools are rust and go based and better tuned for performance during development. JS tooling is generally slow and weirdly complex, and people seem to acknowledge these issues and improve on them.
that's just how our industry behaves. we like shiny new conveniences and tend to want to adopt them as soon as they're viable.

this moment with postgres, node, webpack, babel, scss, and react feels off in a way. there are genuinely more capable alternatives to all of those that take less time to learn and work effectively with, perform better, cost less, and are trusted by big institutions. rails never felt this entrenched when it was the leading default, for example.

there are a lot of positives to this that non-web engineers have seen for a long time--education becomes better and more accessible, people can have more stable and successful careers, and groups can take on more ambitious missions--it's just surprising from how i've seen web engineers approach their trade over the past 15 years