[AnAmericanPOV64]

The "whataboutism" defense has basically become codeword for "how dare you point out our hypocrisy!" Especially for people in South America or the Middle East, why should they care about war crimes in Europe when Europeans/Americans have been committing war crimes or supporting people who do in their regions?

[emptysongglass]

This isn't the topic of discussion of this thread. What do you propose to achieve with this line of questioning?

I live in the EU. Most nations of the EU (all?) have quit invading other sovereign nations to solve their disputes, especially overt landgrabs. What exactly do you intend to convey by pointing out hypocrisy here? Do you have a solution to propose? Should we/I stop caring about an aggressive state power at our doorstep because hypocrisy exists?

[AnAmericanPOV64]

>This isn't the topic of discussion of this thread.

This is true, my intention isn't to derail the topic of the thread. Just pointing out that "whataboutism" is often just a defense for "stop pointing out my hypocrisy".

>Most nations of the EU (all?) have quit invading other sovereign nations to solve their disputes, especially overt landgrabs.

Unless its in Palestine or Western Sahara?

>Do you have a solution to propose?

Yes, perhaps if the West wasn't so hypocritical on ignoring its own numerous war crimes, then countries like China/India and entire regions like South America/Middle East would be more willing to support the West in conflicts like Ukraine. Its obviously too late for that now, but something to keep in mind for the future.

Its a tangential point, but you can't expect people to help you or care when you refuse to show them the same sympathy.

[fer]

Are Israel and Morocco in the EU?