[verisimi]

I don't think we are running out of resources.

I think we are infinitely resourceful and capable of re-imagining and re-engineering our environment - in a good way!

But the problem we face is vested interests and the institutions they have captured. In the name of protecting us and the environment, the governance structure creates artificial rules on behalf of their stakeholders (corporations) that stops innovation and pushes the costs and risks on to the population at large.

[TuringTest]

> I think we are infinitely resourceful and capable of re-imagining and re-engineering our environment - in a good way!

> But the problem we face is vested interests and the institutions they have captured.

The second sentence contradicts the first one.

[verisimi]

It doesn't. If you leave people to it, and people need something, someone will come along and offer a solution for a price.

But if you have a vested interest, they will want government legislation to prevent alternative solutions. Now people who have an idea face legal repercussions fines, jail, etc if they try to offer a solution.

This is the case in many industries, from taxis, to rubbish collection, to banking, to medicine. There are artificial barriers to entry that support rent-seeking by those industries already in place.

[TuringTest]

So you're saying that we're are infinitely resourceful and capable of re-imagining and re-engineering our environment, were it not for other people who can prevent it?

Where's the infinite resourcefulness and infinite capability in that?

[verisimi]

Force kills resourcefulness. Good ideas are prohibited.

To resolve this, you would have to have a good idea and the capability to take governmental force (police, law). Do you feel lucky?

[TuringTest]

My point was that, if you need to take force to implement your ideas (or prevent others from stopping you), your ideas weren't as infinitely capable as you first expressed. Therein lies the contradiction in your assertions on the first post, which is what I was commenting on.

[verisimi]

The problem of overturning government force is a different level of problem to say finding a clever way to create energy, transportation, a new medicine, etc. Its not a question of resourcefulness, its a question of understanding and coordination at scale. This is a weak point that has been played upon.

I don't think people even recognise the level of governmental force in this society - they think government is keeping them safe, rather than facilitating wealth extraction! No one has time to consider this - all are busy trying to get by, despite taxes, fines, etc.

But this force is going to become much more overt in coming years, technocracy will micromanage us. I don't think people will accept it. So I hope to see some solutions here too.