[throwaway599281]

There are lots of components of "non-war stuff" that originated from military R&D, and probably would appear much later if it wasn't for the Defense Budget.

[oblio]

And how many "war things" originated from non-military R&D?

After all every country's GDP is much higher than its military spending and for sure non-military research dwarfs military research.

This whole hypothesis seems unsound. It would mean that all civilian research is somehow much, much worse per dollar than military research. I highly doubt that.

[hef19898]

I never said that, did I? You said R&D cannot increase during war, history showed otherwise. Now it's about war R&D outranking peace time R&D, which was never the question.

[oblio]

You seem to be lost.

Here, let me refresh your memory with the original trope:

> And war has historically been the impetus for much technological investment.

Yes, war also brings innovation. The only question worth answering as a follow up, is, does it bring more than peace?

Because otherwise it makes no sense glorifying war, which this line of thinking is fundamentally about.