[LeoPanthera]

My gaming PC, which isn't that old (Skylake / GTX 1080) isn't compatible with Windows 11. It still works fine, but given that it will inevitably be out of date with something that requires Windows 11, and the current impossibility of buying reasonably priced GPUs, I bought an XBox instead.

Microsoft gets my money anyway, I suppose, but all my real work is done on a Mac.

It's funny how Microsoft is basically just a gaming company for me, now.

[ChuckNorris89]

>which isn't that old (Skylake

To be fair, Skylake is pretty old. 2015 was 7 years ago which is quite significant in consumer tech years.

[rsynnott]

As I remember it, Skylake machines were pretty thin on the ground in 2015 due to early issues; 2016 or 2017 would be a more reasonable origin date. Most SKUs didn't even launch til 2016, and Kaby Lake desktop processors only seem to have shown up in mid-2017.

[supernovae]

macos also dropped support for 2015 hardware in Big Sur..

[rsynnott]

Eh? No it didn't. Compatibility list: https://support.apple.com/kb/sp833

It works on anything with a Haswell or later and Intel or AMD graphics, essentially.

(Note that the MacBook is 2015 because there was no product called that between about 2009 and 2015; the iMac Pro is 2017 because that's when it was introduced).

[JohnTHaller]

Yeah, Apple obsoletes a product 7 years from when they last offered it. The 2014 models of Macbook Air/Pro go obsolete this year and won't get the next macOS. The 2015 models will go obsolete next year, 2023. Windows 10 will still be supported on the grandparent's skylake vintage 2015 PC until 2025 when Apple will be obsoleting the 2018 Mac hardware.

[kyriakos]

Windows 11 works too, the workaround is official and at the same time windows 10 still receives updates so it's not like Microsoft killed older hardware by setting new requirements for Windows 11.

[rsynnott]

Sure, but the issue is uptake of Windows 11. Virtually no-one is going to use a workaround, official or not, so the low uptake is unsurprising, due to poor hardware support.

[novotionworepr]

You might consider trying something like Ubuntu or Linux Mint.

Steam's Proton compatibility layer has come a long way in the past couple of years. It supports most titles without any special configuration, including resource-hungry 3D games like Elden Ring and modded Fallout 4.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Do note that the gpu shortage is somewhat ending,finally. Doesn't mean prices are back to decent amounts, but we went from "no gpu available" to "there are gpus on amazon"

[Handytinge]

Hopefully I can buy a PS5 soon.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Today gpus are showing up below msrp, so if you still want a pc, you are good