[0des]

> yet another start menu

> yet more ads

> requires modern hardware

> more surprise updates breaking things

Win11 not as popular? Imagine my shock and dismay.

A sizable portion of my non-tech peers had bad experiences and one by one switched to Linux and the elder two switched to MacOS.

Frankly I am baffled.

[samtheDamned]

> requires modern hardware

*in a time when new hardware was so freakishly expensive that 4-5 year old hardware was being sold for more than it's original MSRP

[LinAGKar]

And even hardware capable of it often has TPM disabled in BIOS by default

[Aerroon]

I'm actually glad that they had the modern hardware requirement. It means that Microsoft can't suddenly surprise update me into Windows 11.

[elorant]

I have modern hardware but I chose to disable certain bios features for exactly this reason. Now Win10 informs me that my PC is not Win11 capable, and that's a thing less to worry.

[melling]

Me too. I’ve been reading comments like this since the Year of Linux first began.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_...

Image my shock to find out Windows still has 87% market share.

I’m still unhappy that they took my Sun workstation and gave me a Windows PC.

[0des]

Brenda in accounting isn't going to run Ubuntu even with the cute animal names. Until that happens,there will be stacks upon stacks of windows optiplexes being sold every day.

Also nobody misses sloaris. I'm going to chalk that remark up to a misfired punchline.

[hotpotamus]

I doubt Brenda would care much if she was running something like RHEL for work since it can run a browser as good as anything. I assume the main thing keeping Windows around in her case is all the IT endpoint management stuff built around the MS ecosystem. Personally, I'd probably be all in on Ubuntu or some derivative if not for gaming.

[loloquwowndueo]

In my experience people balk when they realize they’re not using Windows or Office. I’ve literally had someone sit in front of a Linux computer with OpenOffice and work fine on it until they realized “hey the title bar says OpenOffice Calc - it’s not excel! I don’t know how to use this!” Despite the fact they were using it just fine. At this point no amount of convincing made them give it another try - they’d just cross arms until they were put back in front of their known, trusty Windows computer.

So I agree they don’t care but there’s also the “I’m not trained for this” fallacy.

[gruez]

>I’ve literally had someone sit in front of a Linux computer with OpenOffice and work fine on it until they realized “hey the title bar says OpenOffice Calc - it’s not excel! I don’t know how to use this!” Despite the fact they were using it just fine.

I guarantee that this won't happen with "brenda in accounting" (ie. typical excel jockey). The mismatching shortcuts/formulas/feature set will immediately tip them off. For someone who's viewing a few spreadsheet and/or doing some basic editing (ie. entering cell values), I can imagine it happening.

[hotpotamus]

I was wondering how much native MS Office matters these days. I've been using OWA and Office 365 via browser for the better part of a decade on a Linux workstation because that's the compromise it took, but the experience was never good. I wonder if native would make much difference.

[kyriakos]

For basic usage the browser variants are good enough but Excel application is significantly more powerful. If you are an excel power user there is no non native alternative at the moment.

[technion]

Really the experience supporting users across lots of organisations is at odds to that.

Coming from a place where changing the Windows background from the default XP theme resulted in people stating they literally weren't able to work and actually refusing to work for several days, having to hack up the Chrome deployment so the shortcut uses the IE icon and calls it "Internet Explorer", Brenda in accounting absolutely cares that she's on a Windows machine running Office unfortunately.

[kyriakos]

Depends what Brenda is using at home these days too

[nonamenoslogan]

I, for one, genuinely miss Solaris--though when I think hard about it, I miss Sun hardware with SPARC in it more than Solaris itself.

[0des]

Nobody misses Solaris, why are you trying to play me