[holoduke]

I am glad this is not the case in Europe (with the exception of the UK). Here we do not only look to performance and pride and you need to win everything. Individual development is very important. Hope it will remain like that.

[chrisseaton]

> Individual development is very important.

Not sure if you’ve misread the thread - the whole problem is too much importance on individual development and the pressure this brings.

[toxik]

This is a funny reply because “individual development” isn’t something you schedule in European eyes. You just hang around with friends and learn to be a good person, and specifically not a tight wound asshole.

[chrisseaton]

Nobody does anything like learn an instrument or play a sport in Europe? That's what we're talking about.

[vladvasiliu]

They do, but the point is that you don't have to be better than everybody else at it to get into university. You just do it for yourself.

I'm not the in US, so my knowledge of the educational system comes only from what I read, but it's my understanding that "extracurriculars" are an important part of college admissions, which is different from Europe.

[blahyawnblah]

> I'm not the in US, so my knowledge of the educational system comes only from what I read, but it's my understanding that "extracurriculars" are an important part of college admissions, which is different from Europe.

That's really only a thing for the private universities and those don't make up a large percentage

[Quillbert182]

> That's really only a thing for the private universities and those don't make up a large percentage

That's not true in my experience. In my state and surrounding states, most of the large state schools care a great deal about extracurriculars.

[chrisseaton]

> the point is that you don't have to be better than everybody else

The person I was replying to was saying how they're 'very important' in Europe though.

[vladvasiliu]

I think it's a question of "important for what" and how society goes about teaching kids those things. As in:

In Europe, it's important that kids learn self-development, so we let them do it. And they do it by hanging out with friends, learning an instrument, etc. They're not pushed to do those things because colleges don't take these into account for admissions.

In the US, it's important that kids learn self-development, so we have them learn an instrument, or participate in sports. They are pushed to do those things because colleges take those into account for admissions.