[BeetleB]

> I think it's pretty clear a lot of people use Netflix and YouTube and it's incredibly obvious that they wouldn't want to add an extra $100 for a lesser (read: non-integrated) experience to use it on their TV when the TV can do it natively. Of course I'm going to connect my TV to the internet, that's the only thing I use it for.

A decent Roku can be had for $25 on discount. I think it is $35 regular price. And I'll bet it's better than what most smart TVs offer. I haven't used modern smart TVs, but several years ago, the inbuilt apps sucked. Netflix is more likely going to update its Roku app than some app on some TV. Indeed, those friends of mine who bought smart TVs 10 years ago got burnt by this within 2-3 years of purchase.

[mushyhammer]

The only smart TV I used is a Bravia 4K from 2019 and I was able to install Kodi and side load additional extensions. It was good for me. If Sony stops updating it, I think it’s fine to add a dongle to extend its lifespan. But yeah I was thinking of more expensive pieces like Apple TV.

[BeetleB]

Apple anything is expensive.