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by michaelmrose 1544 days ago
It should be noted that with Marek's disease we have no desire to create an actually healthful living environment which would reduce the prevalence of the disease in the population and instead have been raising billions of chickens PER YEAR in hideous filth with the understanding that we would be killing them before their environment did for 50 years to get where we are with Marek's and despite all this vaccinated chickens are still better off now than unvaccinated chickens were before the vaccine was invented.

Marek's doesn't make a good argument for vaccine skepticism because it represents a worst case arms race in which modern medicine was still by far the better choice. Also we aren't chickens and most diseases on average tend to become less damaging in order to spread better. Neither this average case nor the extreme case of Marek's are fate but the logical thing is to vaccinate and just keep swimming as it will obviously decrease mortality in the short and long term.

Moving on to the percentage of individuals in the hospitals in Canada being vaccinated.

You have entirely misunderstood the numbers if indeed your numbers are actually even accurate. Vaccination rate is very high in Canada around 90% with vulnerable groups being more like 95-98%.

Lets take this to the logical extreme. Imagine that out of one million people you are the only one unvaccinated and are hospitalized along with 100 vaccinated folks. Even in a world where vaccination decreased hospitalization by 99% you could accurately say that most of the people in the hospital were vaccinated as if that proved somehow that vaccines didn't work.

Indeed one expects with a successful vaccination campaign that eventually most of the people in the hospital are going to be vaccinated no matter how effective it is at keeping them out of it because almost all the vulnerable people are. In the last vaccine skeptic in the world universe you could instead look at which portion of each population is sick. In the vaccinated it would be 0.01% vs 100% of the unvaccinated giving the lie to the prior analysis.

Indeed the only reason to lean on that number is deliberate deception or utter failure to apprehend what the numbers mean.