[yhoneycomb]

How is this a "grand conspiracy"?

People are going to manipulate things in their favor as much as they have the power to do so. Oligarchs in America and elsewhere have the most power, and thus do the most manipulating. Also, it's no secret that the vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few oligarchs.

[vmception]

As soon as they ever compete against each other, it's the same as none existing at all.

That's the easiest way to dismantle that particular grand conspiracy.

The most pragmatic approach is to understand that they don't rely on voting to get their way. But they absolutely compete for resource appropriation and their special interest. It is better if they act like gods of their particular domain or sector, so they can exert control over just that and not compete. But it also reinforces that they cannot and do not coordinate much together.

[yhoneycomb]

They have a whole lot more in common with each other than not. You haven't dismantled anything.

[vmception]

Okay, is your view unfalsifiable? Like is it is possible to be proven wrong at all? What would that entail

[aaaaaaaaata]

I can't tell, are you saying Bilderberg does, or doesn't, represent fuckery?

[vmception]

I’m saying there are so many groups like Bilderberg that its the same as none of them existing

When I was in France, there were people super passionate about being sure I knew about the fraternities that control the world and the supporting conspiracy documentaries with ominous music for 2 hours, except these ones were french ones based in Paris

So are these greater or less than Bilderberg

What about the Trilateral Commission

ALEC

Fuck, the Lizard People