[peoplefromibiza]

> Would this not be same situation in the CCP?

Wasn't it the same situation with Trump, democratically elected POTUS?

Or, in my country, with Berlusconi?

Isn't it the same with many CEOs that have far more power and impact on people's lives than a politician?

The only real difference is that Putin has been there for 20 years and will be there for another 20, if nothing changes.

[consumer451]

> Wasn't it the same situation with Trump, democratically elected POTUS?

> Or, in my country, with Berlusconi?

Yes it absolutely was. Neither of those leaders were very pro-actual democracy, were they?

Perfect is the enemy of good. Just because we can cite examples of specific failures doesn’t mean we should throw out the entire concept. What is a better alternative?

[peoplefromibiza]

> Yes it absolutely was. Neither of those leaders were very pro-actual democracy, were they?

I'm not sure they were/are anti-democracy, I think they have a very different opinion on how to exercise power in a democracy than mine.

There's no "one true way" in a democracy.

Of course they were pathologically bad and it's easy to agree, but bad is a spectrum.

> What is a better alternative?

There are a lot of them, democracy is not the better alternative, democracy only real advantage is that every position of power has an expiration date attached to it and sooner or later the people behind them must be replaced (theoretically of course, there are many examples of powerful people influencing democracies for decades without ever being subject to the voters' judgement) .

EDIT: many smaller to medium communities could benefit a lot from running them under some form of socialism/communism. For example circular economy is a marketing term to express the same concept, that cannot be used in many "free market" countries due to years of propaganda against them.