[JKCalhoun]

Yeah, when he argues that a marble sculpture is "dishonest" it started to look like he was grasping for outlandish examples to make a point.

I generally eschew videos like this anyway — fall into the “writing about music is like dancing about architecture” category.

I prefer not to expound on and on about what is good design and what makes it good design. I know it when I see it.

[dkarl]

He's saying it's dishonest according to the principle that the materials used to build something should not be hidden or made to look like other materials. I think it's a bad example, because, as he admits, it's art and not design, but his next example about Dieter Rams wearing plastic glasses made to look like tortoise shell is more persuasive.

I think his point is that each of the "principles" is one side of a coin, and that Dieter Rams might be famous for one side of each coin, but he deals in both sides, because the preference for one over the other is not absolute. It's a fair point.

[mitchdoogle]

> I know it when I see it.

Design is not only about how things look. In most cases, design is about function as well, so you need to actually use the thing to have a clue whether it's a good design. The most aesthetically pleasing design is completely useless if it inhibits the users' ability to do what they want. I'll take something without any aesthetic qualities if its easier to use

[JKCalhoun]

That is very true.