[kelnos]

Please don't do this here; there's a much less inflammatory way to say what you're saying.

I agree that efficiency of use should not be the driving factor around property use and ownership.

I don't think newcomers should be considered more important than incumbents, but currently the pendulum has swung way too far in the other direction; often newcomers just cannot enter many housing markets, and that's not fair or healthy either. There's nothing inherently "right" about being lucky to be born at a particular time and in the right place and right financial situation to buy housing in a region that just happens to become highly desirable decades later.

[throwaway24433]

> that just happens to become highly desirable decades later

Why should people be forced to give up their homes just because someone else desires them?

By this logic, if newcomers seize granny’s house they should expect to immediately be forced out by the next group who has desire.

There is no coherent argument about fairness or luck here.

The only argument here is a new group of relatively rich people looking for a way to seize desirable properties for themselves without.

Why should a tech-bro who just sits at a keyboard all day be able to force out granny and grandpa who worked as a secretary and an auto-mechanic? Does the tech-bro ‘deserve’ it more?

If they succeed in forcing granny out it will be at least as unfair as it was before.

[88913527]

If granny doesn't leave, it's disingenuous to suggest nobody isn't getting kicked out. It will be someone who has to play by market-rate rules; probably a lower middle class family paying market-rate rent that gets squeezed too far. That's one or two less firemen or teachers or chefs or postal workers in the area.

Why should some people have to give up their homes, but not others, is the more interesting question to ask. If nobody should ever have to give up their living arrangement due to exogenous factors (like a trillion dollar industry popping up in your backyard-- which, to be fair, isn't what happens to most neighborhoods), then we should be doubling down Prop 13 and rent control.