[joebadmo]

You're off-topic and disrespectful.

There's a time and place to talk about Apple's legal practices. But this thread is about Samsung and Google (potentially) behaving much more respectfully toward a competitor than you are. Which is commendable.

[zobzu]

I dunno why after a person's death everyone has to talk only of their good sides. It's a social convention but it's kinda dumb. He did a lot of good stuff, and also quite a bit of bad stuff. That's ok by me.

Google and Samsung did not comment by saying this is to pay respect to S.Jobs, because they wouldn't know what the reaction would be. Now that the reaction is positive, they might comment on it that way.

Otherwise, people would know and start saying "it's in fact because the news would be overshadowed by S.Jobs death, and it would also taint our product launch. It's an extraordinary event, Lets launch later".

There's nothing respectful in not launching a product, a week later. There has been many cool marks of respects instead, all over the worlda and the web, which mean a LOT more and make a LOT more sense than a product launch delay.

I know, unpopular opinions gotta be downvoted, and criticism bashed. Heh. That's pretty much against what S.Jobs believed in, ironically.

[joebadmo]

As an instinctual contrarian, I had something of an allergic reaction to the hagiography, esp. by people who had very little actually to do with Jobs. Many times during the last two days I had the impulse to try to counter what I saw as knee-jerk, saccharine self-insertion in the guise of mourning.

But each time, I took a deep breath, and let people have their moment.

I agree with you that he wasn't perfect. But he was a remarkable human being, and I'm ok with a social convention that, at least for a short time after a person's death, focuses on the good parts of his life, and the lessons we can learn from them.

The rest of your comment is speculation on the motives of Samsung and Google. Anyone who says, "this one reason is not the reason, and this other reason is the real one" is wrong. Especially at the level of this kind of product launch that's a cooperation between two such huge companies, the decision is likely mind-bogglingly complex.

And, honestly, I think a product launch decision can actually have a real-world impact on sales, so it's potentially a lot more meaningful decision than tweeting #thankyoustevejobs.

Again, I'm sure the decision is a byzantine one. But the gggp comment appears to be advocating an antagonistic attitude toward the recently dead. That's simply and obviously disrespectful.

[protomyth]

> I dunno why after a person's death everyone has to talk only of their good sides. It's a social convention but it's kinda dumb.

If you had ill to say of the person, it would be polite and honest to say it when they were alive to defend themselves. The time after a person dies is a little soon as they have relatives and friends who need to work out their grief and not deal with a bunch of detractors.

I am sure Steve Jobs will be debated by historians and evaluated my the ever changing morals of the years to come.

[zobzu]

By this argument, you're claiming that once dead, everything you've ever done is suddenly right. Well, again, that's kinda dumb. I agree with quite a few of the "bad things" Mr Jobs has done, but that doesn't make them "good things". It has nothing to do with honesty. Nothing. Nada. Zero.

Also, I don't need someone, like historians, to tell me how to think. Neither a global population's moral. I have my own though and my own morale. I know, again, that's not a common point of view. Much easier to go with the flow. And again, Mr Jobs would agree. If you want to honor his memory, maybe it's time to think different^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H on your own.

[protomyth]

No, thats not what I said. I just think a brief bit to pause an consider and give people time to bury their dead should be the norm.

The historian comment was to show that the net effect of his life (or any other) will not truly be known until well after death. The morality part was my quick quip on what morals history's judgment will be based.

Its a free country, be rude and add all the pain to the world you want. I just tend to believe a little bit of thought and compassion for others would make it a nicer place.

[ajays]

I don't know why people have to adopt the "anti-cultural" attitude to show their 'coolness'. You can be 'cool' without bashing a guy who just passed away; just do something cool on your own.

I'm no Apple fanboi, but there's a time and place for some things. This is not the time or place to be criticizing Jobs or those who grieve at the loss. I can see why people are sad; and that's fine with me. I may not agree with a lot of what SJ did, but this is not the time to bring out his failings. If you have nothing positive to say, just keep quiet; you aren't adding to the discourse by peeing in the punch.