[ShaveTheTurtles]

A lot of folks focus on act/sat scores when talking about diversity when really these ivy league schools shouldn't have an express lane for legacy entrants. If you are trying to be different than how it was previously, how can you expect that to happen when you give preference to folks that benefited previously?

[tzs]

MIT is not an Ivy League school, and does not give any preference to legacy applicants.

[icelancer]

I agree, but MIT doesn't care about legacy admissions. They're one of the few schools that doesn't.

[raunak]

Without legacy and the prestige and the entire shebang of old English style college, the Ivy Leagues aren't the Ivy League.

I agree with you that eliminating legacy would solve the issue of making the school different - it's never gonna happen though, so there's no point in talking about it honestly.

Also yeah, MIT is not a legacy giving school

[johnaspden]

> shebang of old English style college, the Ivy Leagues aren't the Ivy League

I'm not quite sure what this legacy thing is, but I don't think English universities do it. It sounds corrupt to me, and I think it would be a national scandal.

[mupuff1234]

Not sure why down voted, Oxford and Cambridge don't take legacy into account. (Well at least officially)

[musicale]

Here's how "former MIT admissions director" McGreggor Crowley justified providing preferences to children of alumni and wealthy donors:

"What about university donors, though? Don’t they have an unfair advantage in this process? In truth, for every office of admissions there is a development office that builds a university’s endowment through donations from alumni and wealthy individuals. And every year, regardless of what a college or university says publicly, a number of children of wealthy donors and alumni get a nod in their direction while other applicants are rejected.

The reality is, the money generated by admitting wealthy students often serves to subsidize the financial aid of those less fortunate. If one squints, one might see here a karmic balance enabling many students to attend a college they otherwise could never afford."

Note he said "every office of admissions" and "regardless of what a college or university says publicly." If MIT were an exception, presumably he would have mentioned it. The "regardless of what a college or university says publicly" implies that MIT may be not stating the entire truth when they claim "we don't do legacy"[2] or that MIT's internal behavior may have changed since Crowley worked there. I'm not sure what MIT has to say about providing admissions preferences to children of wealthy donors the way many (most?)[3] universities including Stanford[4] do.

[1] https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2019/03/13/co...

[2] https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/just-to-be-clear-we-do...

[3] https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-college-admissi...

[4] https://provost.stanford.edu/2020/06/26/admissions-considera...

[spaetzleesser]

This stuff allows for way too many back doors and intentionally makes the process more opaque. If they were honest they would just name an amount that guarantees admission so rich guys could buy their way into the school instead of hiding behind “charity”.