[0des]

W3C wew. Where do we even start?

Let's begin with a polite thank you for your service, a hot drink, maybe some type of certificate of acknowledgment that says like "you were present." and then call it day.

But beyond that, in my opinion, W3C has been a disaster since day 1. It seems like some people with good intentions decided one day they could just play RFC roulette and maybe if they slipped enough nonsense into their content that nobody would notice, and we would just all play along and build the misshapen web they were imagining.

[amelius]

Main problem is that the web is amassing complexity everyday, without ever shedding any of it.

[gumby]

> Main problem is that the web is amassing complexity everyday, without ever shedding any of it.

Have you ever looked at your genome? It’s jammed full of old stuff tucked away in case it turns out to be useful someday.

[0des]

So? Everything in life is like this. Yesterday will always be easier than tomorrow.

[amelius]

Point is that you have to be incredibly careful about allowing new complexity. Now we have reached the situation that implementing a new browser has become possible only for very large companies. This would not have been necessary if the web was built using a more layered approach.

[0des]

> you have to be incredibly careful about allowing new complexity

Right, this is my point, the W3C just seems to make it up as they go along and pick and choose.

[tannhaeuser]

That's too reductionist. There's value in having a media-player-like app of limited complexity and purpose, with a wealth of server-side platforms to deliver content.

[commandlinefan]

> the misshapen web they were imagining

Maybe if they had met us halfway and actually shown us the web they were imagining somewhere somehow it might have been easier to get on board, but whenever I tried to look at any of their standards, it was just endless detail with no explanation of why anybody would want to do any of this.