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by technobabbler 1545 days ago
You know, if that were the only roadblock, I wish someone would take the top 10,000 Google queries and just manually curate them. Hire different interest groups -- outdoors, travel, cuisine, etc. -- and manually find the best hits buried deep in some subreddit. No fancy algorithms, just old-fashioned librarian-style research, but constantly updated with the latest findings and queries.

Would happily pay for that... even if it only has 5% of the coverage of Google, that's fine because Google is like 95% noise anyway.

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>, I wish someone would take the top 10,000 Google queries and just manually curate them. Hire different interest groups -- outdoors, travel, cuisine, etc. -- and manually find the best hits buried deep in some subreddit. No fancy algorithms, just old-fashioned librarian-style research, but constantly updated with the latest findings and queries.

It's not exactly your specifications but 2007 Mahalo attempted something like that and they shut down after a few years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahalo.com

The website is no longer there so you have to use Wayback Machine or image search to see what the landing page for Mahalo search UI looked like : https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mahalo.com%22+search&tbm=...

The top 10.000 queries at Google are probably 99% brands, pop culture or current news things, one word or name only, that you would not care for at all. Have a look at the top 20: https://www.statista.com/statistics/265825/number-of-searche...
I think there is an easy exclusion to be made for these types of 'too lazy to type a url' type searches (or 'weather' which is similar in getting a specific piece of data).
I remember one of the top queries we worked at one company with was the number of the US form to fill your taxes
The problem is, you probably won’t pay for it.

Google’s revenue per user in the US underlines that point, taking a credit card out for an annual subscription for a $100 probably isn’t going to score a good conversion rate for anything beyond a very small userbase.

The predicted economic/behavioural constraints are inhibiting innovation. You’re forced to play Google’s game.

I'd gladly pay for a good search engine, but I'm probably in the minority.
You just invented pre-Google Yahoo!
I know. I remember and loved it then.
I also remember altavista and the like and how bad they were. When google came on the scene it was a total game changer.
Google was definitely better than the algorithmic crawlers. But Yahoo often still had gems for a while, a few years maybe, before they gave up. It's too bad.
+1 I see this repeated over and over in tech where an algo is great but why not manually craft the top value queries?

Like with smart speakers, why not manually add a bunch of interactions? You can do it yourself in settings by adding a phrase and desired response, why not have the team adding a bunch they would want?

Isn't that more or less what Yahoo was supposed to be (an index of curated links)?
Yes. There was a period of several years when Google's results were better than Yahoo, but once the human search engines bankrupt, the algorithmic SEO just kept getting worse and worse =/ Too bad...
That would be awesome!