[liamwestray]

That era of I3-i7 was 20-150 Gflops.

Given the Pi is a low-cost device, it's not terrible unreasonable to at least compare it to the 20-50 Gflop CPUs of that period.

But it's also not exactly fair as the HW Decode for video really makes them feel significantly faster in most process intensive workloads for general consumers, and USB3/eMMC/Micro SD cards are significantly faster than the IO used on iX-2000 to iX-4000 era computers (and later).

The Pi4 is almost modern desktop capable for office/admin work. You're at about 25% CPU utilization using HW accelerated 1080p video on a Pi4. Still a little slow, but desktop software and most web apps run as well on a 4gb or 8gb Pi4 as they do on a low-end PC.

[ClumsyPilot]

> Given the Pi is a low-cost device, it's not terrible unreasonable to at least compare it to the 20-50 Gflop CPUs of that period.

It exists today, not 10 years ago. Todau I have to run 5 electron apps in the background before I can even start working, PI simply cannot handle even my basic day to day tasks.

[liamwestray]

Yeah, but you probably wouldn't buy a computer under $600 to begin with though, either, right?

You need at least 8gb of ram, and more than an 128gb of storage (i.e. eMMC and SDcards).

I very much doubt any sub $250 computer could really handle your basic day-to-day tasks (or anyone else' on HN).

ARM-based Chromebook's have already proven that Pi 4-comparable SoCs can do most basic computing needs for consumers.

The idea that essential computing needs can be met with a $100 Pi 400 and a $50 Screen is just kinda crazy.

[Retric]

I don’t think most people would be happy with a laptop that had half the processing power of an ultra low end laptop from 10 years ago.

But the better comparison for a Pi 4 isn’t laptops it’s cellphones. The Pi 4 is comparable to ultra low end cellphones, but gets crushed by a midrange phone like a 2022 iPhone SE.

[Dylan16807]

> Given the Pi is a low-cost device, it's not terrible unreasonable to at least compare it to the 20-50 Gflop CPUs of that period.

What specific chips do you have in mind? By that same benchmark, an i3-3210 has 58.9Gflops. So that's still 4x higher, and 8x higher per core.

[liamwestray]

I was looking at this:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/pr...

Kinda just went with the bottom half of the 2010-2014 era chips.

[Retric]

That list isn’t limited to actual laptop/desktop chips.

If it ends in E it’s an embedded chip for stuff like smart refrigerators etc. LE/LM are for even lower power devices.

I would suggest looking at actual cheap laptops from 2012 if you want to see what the low end actually looked like.

[liamwestray]

A lot of the sub 50 GFLOP stuff were low-end Laptop chips with regular M-suffixes.

These are mobile Ivybridge chips, they were not snappy, and as late as 2013 release dates for sub 50 GFLOPs.