[ratsforhorses]

Just my 2 cents, but seems to me Western society depends a lot on meat, bread, diary as "food" , the fast food for the masses, sugar or glucose syrup made from corn is another huge ingredient as is palm oil... there's a great french film out there called "Demain" or Tomorrow, which is much more succinct... but basically growing vegetables can be done much more intensively by small farmers and generally is... Obesity epidemic in the US and elsewhere is because sugary products are so much more accessible to the lower income earners ... there's a huge variety of plants we no longer eat such as purslane or nettles which are highly nutritious... agriculture as is currently is imo a form of terrorism on nature, monoculture, x"cides", and heavy machinery which still isn't in this day an age of hype about self driving and gps,automated (because legislation...duh) even pastures could and should be planted with bushes because they provide added shade, roots reaching deeper and leaves the cattle eat.... I could rattle on but just saying in Switzerland apples taste of sugary water, here in Romania we have so many tastes... so I guess good luck you WIERD countries...