[mensetmanusman]

“Right now the absolute worst thing you can do for the environment is to have a child as a westerner.”

By this logic one can rationally claim the best thing you can do for the environment is to die.

[nicoburns]

> By this logic one can rationally claim the best thing you can do for the environment is to die.

That may well be true for most people. Luckily the environment isn't the only factor in ethical considerations.

[dane-pgp]

Or to kill.

We need to be really careful that in our haste to make progress in environmental protection and gender equality, we don't find ourselves heading down the dark path towards eugenics or self-extinction.

[pessimizer]

Or to not have children that you don't want, which is what the discussion is about.

We don't avoid killing ourselves or others because of its effects on the environment, which are great. We avoid killing ourselves and others due to other considerations. I bet you can name some so I don't have to.

[dane-pgp]

> We avoid killing ourselves and others due to other considerations.

I'm not sure who this "we" is. Your reasons and mine may be different, and sadly some people can't accept any of these reasons.

[GekkePrutser]

Nobody talked about killing anyone.

It's just about avoiding pregnancies that are not even wanted.