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by FrenchDevRemote 1547 days ago
I think it would be counter productive to bring attention to this.

They're a very small percentage of Ukraine population.

If ANY country got invaded some of the soldiers defending against invaders are going to be fascists, it's inevitable. If the US got invaded and you wanted to throw out the fascists out of the army you wouldn't have much of an army lol.

Defending against an invasion from a foreign country is not really the time to discuss political ideologies, bullets are bullets, once the russians are out they can go back to making less than 5% of votes...
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unmole 1547 days ago
It's funny how they're simultaneously a small fringe group and at the same time a vital element of defence.

> If the US got invaded and you wanted to throw out the fascists out of the army you wouldn't have much of an army lol.

What an absurd premise. How many servicemen do you know?

> the russians are out they can go back to making less than 5% of votes

Right, because there is no way they would draw more support after being lionized as heros.

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estaseuropano 1547 days ago
In any country a certain part of the population holds extreme views. If the military represents more or less the population then by necessity it will contain some fascists etc. If anything, you would not expect many vegans or non-violence activists in the military, but you would certainly expect to see those people that love power, weapons and the language of force, which correlates quite strongly with fascist views.

Op did not claim that the whole military is fascist.

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FrenchDevRemote 1547 days ago
They're near the border so obviously they can be seen as vital. They also were preparing for years.

If you're willingly getting a job that entails killing brown people overseas for no legitimate reason you're kind of a fascist :) If you voted for trump you're kind of a fascist.

>Right, because there is no way they would draw more support after being lionized as heros.

Like I said, I don't think this is the time to think about this, if your city was getting destroyed by a foreign invader, would you really care who's fighting the invaders? If they committed crimes they can be dealt with later once Ukraine assured its survival.

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belter 1547 days ago
Around 2% percent of the votes:

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220325-azov-regiment...

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yucky 1547 days ago
How does the saying go, "if you sit down at a table with 10 Nazi's, there is now a table of 11 Nazi's"?

It's been interesting watching how quickly this narrative changed once Ukraine became the center of attention on social media.

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justsomehnguy 1547 days ago
> If ANY country got invaded some of the soldiers defending against invaders are going to be fascists, it's inevitable

> Defending against an invasion from a foreign country is not really the time to discuss political ideologies

Yeah, yeah, it is like they just popped into existence on February 24.

If Ukraine government was really bothered with them they wouldn't exist now (or at least they wouldn't be a part of the country military forces) and it couldn't be used by Putin as one of the means to justify the invasion. Yet...

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FrenchDevRemote 1547 days ago
There is fascists in America and in most European countries. There is more white supremacists in America than Azov members in Ukraine(in %), but the GOP still exists, and there is American senators against interracial marriage.

There is literal nazis in any army in the world. Armies are rarely full of peaceful left leaning people.

putin doesn't need a reason. for anything. he murdered people for decades without repercussions, why would he need any kind of justification?

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