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by fizzyfizz 1550 days ago
I was surprised by the claim about Stephen Diehl so I did a little googling. I don't think it's correct to say he "works on his own blockchain company". However, relatively recently he was working on smart contracts with a company called Adjoint.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180220171955/https://www.steph...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlu61wJe2Y

He seems to have been interested in smart contracts but found the current implementations appalling. He wanted to use functional programming, particularly Haskell, to create something like a smart contract with better guarantees. But he is also careful to say that a smart contract doesn't imply a blockchain; he's talking more generally about code that executes over distributed databases.

This stuff is scrubbed from his website, and Adjoint doesn't even appear on his LinkedIn profile. But I can easily see why that might be the case if he's decided the whole field is rubbish and left the industry, or if his work is being misconstrued.

That said, having examined blockchains in depth gives him more credibility, not less. And it would be a rather bizarre business model to continually decry blockchains if he was actually working on one.

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EDIT: Found an interview where he distinguishes cryptocoins from other technologies sometimes labelled web3, like IPFS. https://www.coywolf.news/podcast/episode-12-stephen-diehl-in...

I think it's fair to say the guy is not an indiscriminate hater. On the other hand, I also personally was already convinced that crypto "currencies" are terrible but IPFS and decentralized organizations might be cool, so I guess I like him more now.

2 comments

I appreciate your reply. You dug into a claim I made and lay out your criticisms dispassionately, thanks. This is the kind of discourse I'd like to see more of.

> This stuff is scrubbed from his website, and Adjoint doesn't even appear on his LinkedIn profile. But I can easily see why that might be the case if he's decided the whole field is rubbish and left the industry, or if his work is being misconstrued.

Gives his passionate publishing against Blockchains I'd prefer he not hide this aspect of his past and actually talk about it. I guess I didn't know that he had moved on from Adjoint so that does add more credibility to his beliefs. But removing it from his website, removing it from LI, and neglecting to talk about it in public can certainly cast some doubt. I'm sympathetic to your view as well though.

Thank you for a response in the spirit of good discourse.

Anyway, I don't even know if he has moved on from Adjoint.

I agree there's something odd about this, but I've also seen how people who are vocal critics on the internet have to be less public about their associations. Not sure what to think about it.

You added more data to my view and definitely made me think. Thanks for that!
just to clarify this a little, stephen is/was (the status of adjoint is unclear but from what i can see it is now defunct) the CTO and co-founder of adjoint and he blocks anyone who raises this in public. https://twitter.com/billywhizz1970/status/146927786616050074...

he now seems to be a full-time anti-crypto propagandist. i'm not sure how he makes a living from that, but he seems to spend all day every day talking about it for at least the last 6 months and has gained a large following on twitter due to it. personally, i find it hard to trust anyone on either side of the debate who is this invested in their extreme position and unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate with anyone who critiques their positions.

here are some more links about adjoint for anyone interested in some more background.

http://internetofagreements.com/2017/12/18/stephen-diehl-adj...

https://medium.com/humanizing-the-singularity/adjoint-distri...

https://web.archive.org/web/20190513032812/https://www.adjoi... "Adjoint empowers enterprises to achieve new levels of efficiency and control by delivering blockchain technology built specifically for the needs of the financial industry"

https://medium.com/b2b-buzz/adjoints-interconnections-dd619e...

http://web.archive.org/web/20210316021048/https://www.forbes...

https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/79619/tech-mahindra-pa...

https://medium.com/humanizing-the-singularity/adjoint-distri...

https://www.pymnts.com/news/b2b-payments/2019/treasury-manag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlu61wJe2Y