[speed_spread]

Let's see:

- Insists on every expression being (wrapped (in parenthesis))

- Uses polish prefix notation

- Profound belief that recursion is more intuitive than loops

- Macros everywhere, because code is data, so why not?

- Whole language built from a very small set of axioms

- REPL-based workflow

QED Clojure is _a_ Lisp.

(FWIW I'm learning Racket right now)

[jhgb]

Lisp: "List processing". Clojure doesn't even have cons cells... A Lisp without cons cells is like a C derivative without pointers...is it really C at that point? I'd also question the "profound belief that recursion is more intuitive than loops" since Lisp supports loops extremely well -- better than most languages, since you can build up your own iterative constructs using tagbody. And Clojure doesn't even have proper tail calls, so I doubt that Clojure actually believes in recursion.

[speed_spread]

Clojure doesn't have tail calls because they should be implemented at the JVM level to be effective, a feature which has been on the back burner for ever because no other languages would use them.

[lispm]

Programming languages on top of the JVM would not use that? Who said that?