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by matsemann 1549 days ago
Ah, very cool. For java dev I haven't yet felt the need to containerize anything, normally mvn clean install works and does everything needed. But for Python I've used remote interpreters through docker in PyCharm lately (since getting a python env installed with wheels & stuff properly is sometimes almost impossible).

VSCode have had some more luck with their frontend/backend architecture making it easier to pull off, glad to see jetbrains is on the move, as I prefer them.
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eropple 1549 days ago
YMMV, but I've had very good luck just using asdf for...pretty much everything, Python included. In a normal week I'll probably touch half a dozen environments--Node, PHP, Python, Java, Ruby, Golang, maybe sometimes dotnet-core--and asdf not only Just Works for me, but has done so without thinking about it for going on three years or so, when stuff like rvm/rbenv changed rapidly enough as to necessitate changing it up to stay on the same page as my teammates.

No relation, just a super happy user.

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matsemann 1549 days ago
Our experience is gcloud and some other commands get messed up :/

Probably not asdf's fault, though. I've had multiple issues with gcloud not being compatible with my setup, spamming errors like /tmp/_MEIRZ3igG/libssl.so.1.1

But what asdf doesn't solve, though, is the setup for new devs. Python projects can sometimes take days to get running properly on a machine because of various differences, asdf solves some of it but replaces it with other installation steps instead.

That's what I like about a dockerized setup, if it works one place it works for everyone (almost, nix is probably better).

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eropple 1549 days ago
I can't speak to Python beyond the fairly minimal touch points I have with our projects, but Python anecdotally seems much rougher than it should be in many respects. But pretty much everything I touch (Node, Java, Ruby, dotnet-core) ends up being solved with asdf, a Brewfile for the Mac users and yum-and-xargs for the Fedora folks (me), in very short order. As far as new machines go, I have a shell script that I share with new folks (and my own version for a new machine) that just gets things done. (Used to use chef-zero, but that got really crusty.)

I like Docker for a lot of things. That said, on code inside containers is pretty awful, in my experience, and I'd much rather use docker-compose with something like Traefik to route outside Docker so I can run my service locally and everything works as I expect it. You can always tell a project that I work on because there's a bash script in there that fires up tmux with docker-compose, all services under nodemon, ngrok, etc. all good to go. ;)

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