[rchaud]

> Make a phone. Sell it. Make it repairable and upgradeable. Let people keep it for a long time.

True. I remember going to the "electronics shop" in my neighbourhood to have the family VCR and CD player repaired. My family has a Sony CRT TV that lasted from 1998-2018, needing only occasional repairs, doable with parts available at the local shop.

Toyota and Honda 'dumb' cars are still this way; repairable at any body shop, with parts that don't cost an arm and a leg. I'm never going to purchase a Tesla or some other car (BMW/Mercedes/others) that give you little choice about where to go for service.