[marcosdumay]

And here we see the damage caused by the modern OOP. People that complain about that want to replicate in Haskell the lob4j philosophy of adding logging into every interface, because with data and IO chunked everywhere inside object interfaces, you never know if you can ever repeat an execution in a development environment to verify it.

The thing is, if for some reason you really think you need to log inside a pure function, you either need an intermediate variable or your perceived needs are severely misguided.

[dmitriid]

> And here we see the damage caused by the modern OOP. People that complain about that want to replicate in Haskell the lob4j philosophy of adding logging into every interface

And here we see a person slinging unsubstantiated accusations

> if for some reason you really think you need to log inside a pure function, you either need an intermediate variable or your perceived needs are severely misguided.

Clear demonstration of "it looks like hardly anyone is doing any useful logging in Haskell".

Because, as we know, the fact that "you can repeat an execution" immediately makes your need to log anything in that execution as "misguided".

[marcosdumay]

What exactly do you expect to gain by logging inside a pure function?