[exmadscientist]

> Engineers have a far higher standard than academics.

That's exactly why I'm arguing for raising standards in academia. When you publish a paper with a traditional publisher, you have to sign a bunch of stuff. You are aware that you are literally signing off on something and claiming responsibility for it.

In my opinion that responsibility should extend to legal liability for fraud with criminal penalties if mens rea can be established.

And, yes, I'd freely apply that standard to every paper I've ever published. Because they might or might not be wrong, but they're not fraudulent!