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by andi999 1549 days ago
I think I might be your target audience (oggling with the idea to create as SaaS, and good background in python). And let me be blunt: your promo material sucks

The docs show me what words to type to get your product, but not what your product gives me. From what I figured out it gives me a lot of django stuff. So should I go away now to learn all that djange stuff (probably yes), but then why do I need django forge?

The best explanation is the heading of the video. But still, what is the benefit. How difficult is it to build a SaaS with vanilla django, and how much easier is it with django-forge. I couldnt figure that out.

Can you make a video, where you show how to make a full fledged SaaS with django-forge and deploy it? How long would that video be?

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> your promo material sucks

Well put.

Yeah I'm not 100% sure yet what level of Django experience is required to use (or at least appreciate) Forge? Should you have used Django at least once before on a project? Gone through the official Django tutorial maybe (https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.0/intro/tutorial01/)? At the moment, if you have not actually used Django before then I probably would recommend you go through their tutorial and THEN try Forge (or watch the video / read https://www.djangoforge.dev/docs/start/).

Some differences will immediately jump out — they'll tell you very (very) little about how to manage your dependencies, local environment, hosting/deploying, configuring settings with "secrets" for local vs production, the fact you'll probably want a custom AUTH_USER model later and it will be super hard to change, etc. But yeah, to sell those as differences, you do need to have a baseline familiarity or else I need to do a really thorough job of explaining and pointing them out ahead of time.

I think the gist, if you compared vanilla Django to Forge, would be that vanilla Django is almost completely open-ended. There are a lot of decisions you're going to have to make, and research you're probably going to have to do. Forge removes a lot of those decisions and makes them for you. Some are easy to spot up front, but others not until you're further down the road or have more experience...

> Can you make a video, where you show how to make a full fledged SaaS with django-forge and deploy it? How long would that video be?

Videos are absolutely the way to go. I'll try to do more and run through more of the parts and maybe a complete process. That first video I made stops short of deploying to Heroku, but it's maybe 5 minutes away from being deployed. Beyond that, basically every "topic" in the sidebar could use at least one video.

By 'THEN try Forge' you mean pay 1000$?
Lol, that's why I added the "or watch the video / read the Forge start page". 50% off right now though! Still thinking through some of these things. Not sure how to let people "try" it without basically giving away all of the value (code, which you can't take back).
I watched (partially) the video. Do you think it shows what you can do with django-forge? Does anybody here think so? In this case I will watch it again in 3 month.