[stuu99]

Uhh the red flags were there in 1997 when you all started buying client-server software. Intel and the industry know you are idiots at computers.

MMO's/steam are signs of idiocracy, aka you are bad at understanding you are getting robbed. That's why we have TPM and client-server crapware in windows 10/11.

If you buy any client-server SaaS you are a moron, everyone was expecting local applications forever until 1997. Even EA would have never imagined you'd all be dumb enough to buy incomplete programs where they take files hostage on a 2nd computer half a world away.

So no the time to be alarmed was over 20 years ago, since there is no software or game that requires an internet connection, there was no steam, no stupid fucking login screens, nothing. The public has told the tech industry it is chimp factor five levels of stupid over the last 23+ years. So they are locking us out of our PC's, windows 10/11 is building copyright enforcement into the cpu so future applications won't run and your bios can be remote updated like a console to disable any pirated software or cracked exe's that are found on your PC.

You all gave them this access to your PC, so why wouldn't intel and the rest just keep going?

See here on EA and ultima, and the death of games as local applications:

https://youtu.be/lnnsDi7Sxq0?t=1134

[zelon88]

You're not wrong.

However, while I agree that SaaS is a really dangerous trend that Steam definitely contributed to, I can't agree 100%. Specifically, out of all the SaaS products out there Steam is probably one of the best. And I run most games on Linux with Proton and all my games have local binaries. I have even replaced them with no ill effects. Steam has the capability to hash the file but under normal situations it just calls the exe by name. And it's offline mode is pretty legit also (although it's up each games to respect that setting for their own analytics).

EA is completely untrustworthy. I will not use Origin.

As far as Windows goes; as a professional domain administrator my opinion is this; it is literally the only realistic way to apply users, groups, and policies to a domain. It is impossible to run a successful medium-large scale non-tech company without a Windows environment simply because it is a ubiquitous and easy to maintain system. At home I am a strictly Linux neckbeard like the rest of you, but when it's time to make money at the office you need a Windows environment. That doesn't mean you need to setup Azure AD and offload all your infrastructure. You can do it all on premises and even use your own KMS activation servers if you really want to. But honestly windows is a good product that is worth the price if you're trying to make money with non-technical people.

[stuu99]

Man I'm sorry to tell you, but your post is not even wrong. There are no good reasons for broken applications, when you have any client-server exe running on your PC you've lost your privacy and they've hacked your PC because you can't audit the code.

Game companies have been exfiltrating data on massive scale and gives them 100% access to everything we say and do, I'm sorry to tell you but we live in a global panopticon that you idiots enabled.

There's zero reason for any application not to be local on your PC, you don't grasp in an internet enabled world your PC is a chip in a global sized motherboard that content companies and intel and AMD want replaced and turned into a dumb locked down consumer device.

TPM is about putting copyright cops on your PC's, and all your beautiful local exe's will be signed binaries in the future, no more dumping MP4's from netflix because they will be end to end encrypted and signed.

Windows 10/11+ is them changing how binary executables work going forward.

From 1960 to roughly 2010, all cpu's were using plaintext binaries, microsoft and the media and content industries desperately want to change this to defeat piracy. They will not give up on locking down your PC, they can finally turn files and give them rivalrous qualities by way of encryption, internet and digital signing. Just like consoles.

You don't seem to grasp we've lost the battle and are too stupid to realize, the future of hardcore gaming on the PC was supposed to be level editors, dedicated servers and local applications, not logon screens, user acccounts and stolen videgames.

Because every "software as a service game" is entirely downloaded to your PC making a mockery of the concept, if Dota 2 and league require a $2000 computer with the latest 3D video card.

If I didn't live with morons these games would be normally coded PC games like we had in the late 90's and early 2000's before the stolen RPG apocalypse (Mmmo's).

MMO's were just rpg's with their networking code stolen out of the game and sold back to you as some "new type of product" the whole thing was a scam, to defraud gamers out of game ownership because the game industry desperately wanted to kill the local infinitely copyable binaries. You don't seem to get this was part of the game plan to kill "piracy" buy literally stealing the game from their customers. Can't easily pirate it (during its period) without the files that used to come inside the game.

That' why modern multiplayer that used to be embedded in the exe is stolen out of most modern games while games from the 90s' you can still play multiplayer because its embedded inside the program.

[unixhero]

And to add to that argument https://youtu.be/tUAX0gnZ3Nw